Another Racer For Team W116 ?

[Michel]

Dear Michel
Have you ever considered a Ponton race car?
A historic racer like Grant from South Africa is doing,
I know you like these cars.

Dear Des,

A Ponton would be a blast, even a Finnie (like GrantV) would be also lots of fun, but the 116 has a V8 and is more stable and I like the look..

 

[B13]

That is only 25 kilos.... But that could be an advantage....

My car is an SE and it feels more nimble around a track than my SEL does, so these small changes in weight and wheelbase do make a marked difference to the feedback to the driver.

My SEL also feels lots heavier at the front even though there is only 50kg difference between the M117 V8 and the 6.9 V8.

I.

 

[SELfor50]

http://www.allclassifieds.com.au/ac/ac0032?vcid=122203331


Re-posted Michel, already dropped by $500 over 1 week or so... You want me to go have a look tomorrow? I reckon if I wave the dude $600 cash, he'll say yes.

Let me know.

Cam.

 

[SELfor50]

Also, just on the question of mods and rough expenditure so far, from my view.

If I had my time again, the order in which I'd do things would be:

Brakes (Calipers Reco'd and Comp Pads, also braided lines)
Suspension (lowered, firmed, custom springs, all bushings and control arm bushings etc. Shocks - new or old but re-built for track use, basically firm up the entire suspension / steering assembly)
Steering wheel (good sports wheel)
Tyres (semi-slicks of some sort - yoko a048's as mentioned previously)
Diff (3.46:1, CIG Locked)
Weight reduction (absolutely everything that doesn't need to be there)
Cold Air Induction (560SEL air housing or custom piping to gain clean cool air)
Throttle Linkage adjustments / tuning & also Air/Fuel mixture tuning (on dyno)

What I've done, and costs:

Timing Chaing, Guides, Tensioner etc - $900
Leads - $200
Rotor Button & Dist Cap - $250
Brake Calipers - Reco'd $4-500? (can't remember, Styria can note this)
Brake Pads, QFM Comp 3's - $500 (is that right Ian) for front & rear
Suspension (everything mentioned above) - $2,400
Tyres (been through a few 2nd handy's but for new ones) - $1400 [4 x yoko a048's]
Weight Reduction - Time
Dyno Tune - $50
Diff - $300
Services (Oil / Filter, Transmission Filter / tranny oil, Plugs etc) - at least every 2-3 events - $unknown
Miscellaneous hoses & other small parts - $2-300

COUNTLESS PARTS / EXPERIMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES - $$$$UNKNOWN - but definitely not less than about $2-3k
(This included different heads, diff's, intakes, and other misc parts)
Most of the time the development would reach a stage where the realisation was it wasn't worth proceeding for the outcome.

I don't wanna scare you Michel, but if I were to count everything i've spent on my track car to date (including prior to it becoming a track car), I'm confident it would be somewhere between 10-15K.

With the next project being a re-grind of CAMS, M116 Heads & Possible Forced induction - that figure will probably be pushed to around the 25K mark - if it goes ahead.

Who know's where it'll end up, and thank christ that my Dad doesn't know how much i've spent on the car.

All in all, doesn't matter how much you spend, the main thing I take away from my time on the track (and much thanks to advice that Ian has provided from his years of experience) is the skills that I've obtained from doing this.

Cam.

 

[SELfor50]

http://www.allclassifieds.com.au/ac/ac0032?vcid=122203331


Re-posted Michel, already dropped by $500 over 1 week or so... You want me to go have a look tomorrow? I reckon if I wave the dude $600 cash, he'll say yes.

Let me know.

Cam.

Michel, I guess you don't want me to go check this out?

 

[Lukas]

I'm keen for you to go check it out, and might come along if the time is right - it could be a stund double for the gold 6.9.

Have been watching that one for a while in AC - there's also a older 250SE going cheap, but it has a hole in one of the cylinders

 

[SELfor50]

Sounds good mate, I'm waiting for a call back from the fella.
Will probably try and organise a time for tomorrow evening. In fact, I still have to come and admire the 6.9 stash you have. will call you soon.

Cam.

 

[Fotografa]

Team W109 maybe?

And it's all ready to race!

Go on, buy it. You know you want to:

http://cgi.ebay.de/MERCEDES-BENZ-30...9|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:2|294:50

 

[Michel]

Team W109 maybe?

And it's all ready to race!

Go on, buy it. You know you want to:

http://cgi.ebay.de/MERCEDES-BENZ-30...9|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:2|294:50

I'd love to.. and I am not that far away....
but.....it says...Mindestpreis nicht erreicht (reserve not reached)

and I suggest we are very far away from that reserve..

I'll stick to Team W116 and let Ant go for this one...

 

[Fotografa]

Michel,

This one also hasn't hit reserve, but nice starting price, and it is an SE.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260414069609&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123

 

[Michel]

Michel,

This one also hasn't hit reserve, but nice starting price, and it is an SE.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260414069609&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123

Again without being too picky, the starting price is already at my limit and it's in Melbourne....

 

[SELfor50]

Again without being too picky, the starting price is already at my limit and it's in Melbourne....

I reckon that other 450SEL here in canberra with Black Leather interior will be dropped under $1K listing soon.... he's still got it. Maybe worth a shot at getting it for $500?!!? ...if you're serious about $500 that is?!

 

[Styria]

Both of these cars look 'reasonable' to Michel's requirements, although he'd probably want to pay a little less that these asking prices. The first one is a curious car - headlight wiper(s) a la 6.9 and option on others, badged as a 450SEL but the Vin number shows it to be a 450SE.

Isn't it also amazing how much mre room there is under the bonnet once you fit a Yankee V8. Regards Styria

 

[abl567]

Re: Racing 6.3

Sorry for any confusion, this belongs here

Mmmmm, I have a 300SEL 3.5 sitting downstairs at the factory and know someone who wants the interior as it is parchment leather.
I bought it as a parts car for Six 3 but it is too good to part out but to much work to restore to road worthy to justify the spend.

Team 109??????

Michel...


The 3.5 has a 3.57 diff ratio with a single spinner, in my parts bin I have the LSD clutch pack from my old 6.3 diff and a 4.01 crown wheel and pinion from a 280SE diff....
With 109 airbag springs the suspension adapts to the conditions via the leveling valves so "tightening" the suspension is not an issue.

This may happen .... Michel...

 

[SELfor50]

Re: Racing 6.3

True it does belong here... Refer to my post answering in the trading post.


Let us know if you have any questions about the sprinting thing..

 

[SELfor50]

Re: Racing 6.3

http://www.allclassifieds.com.au/ac/ac0032?vcid=122232325

I know that you guys are already set on the 109 thing probably... but this seems like a decent candidate to?!

 

[Michel]

Re: Racing 6.3

http://www.allclassifieds.com.au/ac/ac0032?vcid=122232325

I know that you guys are already set on the 109 thing probably... but this seems like a decent candidate to?!

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH that is wayyyyyyyyyyy too big....

Let's stay focused ...

Team 116 ....