The Rover P5/P5B
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sean sherry
Master
A double comment.... These Rovers are on a different planet to the much more revered Jaguars.
They were solid quality. Over priced ? I think not ... you get what you pay for. My experience ?
Having attended to many many of both, of their Auto Trans. The two litre cars were not up to much. They were perhaps aimed at the Triumph 2000s. also gutsless with an auto.
I have experienced everything on four wheels, from 1930 Austin Sevens, to todays offerings via owenership . Our new Subarus are amoungst the best ... Forrester & an Impreza. Both with excelent Subaru developed CVTs. I cannot fault them.
For Patrick.... are the Truck Drivers in Outback Truckers all that dumb and incompetant that, especially one of them doesn't even carry a spare Fan Belt. The one whose Brain is fatter than his Gut. Lives from hand to mouth. But I'm sure that the vast majority are hard workig men,
doing a very trying job in the Outback. I never realised how the other half lived to keep the country operating.
They were solid quality. Over priced ? I think not ... you get what you pay for. My experience ?
Having attended to many many of both, of their Auto Trans. The two litre cars were not up to much. They were perhaps aimed at the Triumph 2000s. also gutsless with an auto.
I have experienced everything on four wheels, from 1930 Austin Sevens, to todays offerings via owenership . Our new Subarus are amoungst the best ... Forrester & an Impreza. Both with excelent Subaru developed CVTs. I cannot fault them.
For Patrick.... are the Truck Drivers in Outback Truckers all that dumb and incompetant that, especially one of them doesn't even carry a spare Fan Belt. The one whose Brain is fatter than his Gut. Lives from hand to mouth. But I'm sure that the vast majority are hard workig men,
doing a very trying job in the Outback. I never realised how the other half lived to keep the country operating.
Patrick_R
Grand Master
Sean,
I don’t watch outback truckers much, as it is very sensationaliced as one would expect for TV. However, there is a good many of them just like you say, and see. Plain dropkicks that have no idea of anything, I call them “wheel attendants” because I wouldn’t even call them drivers.
You are correct, some just live day to day, and possibly will never own a truck.
I have never seen bigger bitches or wingers than trucks drivers, and I have also had the pleasure to deal with some of the greatest people I have ever met who are drivers and/or truck owners.
It’s such a colourful field.
Regarding fan belts, if the truck is a bit newer, say after 2000 it will have serpentine belts, sometimes one, or maybe two.
So not really serviceable by the driver, but these huge belts are very robust and rarely fail, but if they are neglected during service, or the trucks are not serviced correctly, these and many other things could fail. A lot of items today are gear driven not so much belt driven, so less chance of failures.
Yes, if it’s an older truck, they may have the old fan belts, and are serviceable by the driver if they are a bit old school.
sean sherry
Master
The older I get....(90 very soon)....the more I seem to remember of yester year......As an aprentice for the imporers of Morris cars 1950 into Nth Ireland, it was my regular job to pick up the new cars from the Docks twice a month.. Amoungst the Nuffield products I have driven brand new Rileys..a new Rover (the one with the single centre spot light) a new Singer SM ( the last of them ) The Morris cars Minor & Oxford were a giant leap forward in 1950, to the previous post war offerings which were tarted up versions of the pre war cars. eg Torsion Bar independant front suspensions. Well engineered Coloum gear shifts etc.
sean sherry
Master
The Rileybut still with the pre war wooden Bodys which eventually rot out Though my 1955 2.5 survived pretty well. into the nineties....
Patrick_R
Grand Master
You were very lucky to have driven brand new versions of cars most of us have only read about.
Great memories I’m sure.
sean sherry
Master
And the Rileys were way ahead with their engines. High Cams, Cross flow Heads,with twin SUs Designed in 1925 for Riley 9's Nothing new under the Sun....Firsr 4 valve heads were in 1903 !!
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The location seems to be Rural Victoria. I must admit to really liking that sort of enviroment - it conveys the feeling of peace and quiet. I really would love to see a little more of the property in general. The car itself - pretty good and workmanlike. I would worry a little about the upholstery, showing some "cracks" but plenty of "dryness". I think it can be saved by a generous supply of Saddle Soap and Hide Food. Unfortunately, once it gets to the stage of "illustration", some remedial work is urgently required. Some will classify it as "Patina" but I have some reservation to the value of this term or description. Being a Mark IIA/B/ or 2C, it would be fitted with the ultra dependable and sturgy Borg Warner DG (Detroid Gear) gearbox as fitted to WW2 Troup Carriers. A beautiful quality box, but parts and "lack of knowledge" by experts (!) is an issue. Regards Styria
sean sherry
Master
Lack of knowledge Styria.. just because I am in in 92nd year.... don't write me off just yetThe location seems to be Rural Victoria. I must admit to really liking that sort of enviroment - it conveys the feeling of peace and quiet. I really would love to see a little more of th
There were many issues with the DG. My 3.4 Mk 1 Jaguar LHD I owned in New York would stay in 2nd Gear, if the down switch button was used. 3.8 Jaguars would break the input shafts. The second gear sprag clutches would slip even though they showed little wear. ...We were forever replacing the direct drive clutch plates also in the Converters of Humbers...Rovers. I welded them up by hand & pressure tested them under water never had a leak !
I have just finished another restoration Mid seventies Yahama TY 175 Trials Bike
My first love has always been Off Road Trials Bikes. First Bike at 16 was a very worn 1934 Royal Enfield. Oil pump would not return oil from the Crankcase. Never fixed as the face of the Crankcase to pump drive was beyond repair. First Car at 18, was a well worn 1930 Austin Seven "Convertible" ie,. it didnt have a roof just a fadric top of some sort.
In Sunny Ireland !...... The spirit is strong but the Body is weak
My secrect ....I have a young Wife..... Bev won't be 90 untill next year ...........Sean
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Sean, nice to hear from you. Still got your sense of humor and overflowing faculties. I know you won't agree, but they don't make them like this anymore - maybe just as well. There are one or two quite distinctive memories that stir the bit between my ears. My first, of many achievements, relates to my success in tying up my shoelaces for the first time after months of trying to do it unsuccessfully. The second one is a little different. As you know, men's trouser flies are covered by a flap. Yet going back to the early fifties, there was no flap and all the buttons were there to be seen. Change that mode of fastening was considered as some form of achievement.
I obtained my knowledge to repair and servicing of Automatics by trial and error - the last named always would hurt when a box wouldn't work properly after installation. It was always back to the drawing board. In the end, I was quite adept and capable of dealing with the Borg Warner 35 and 65s, as well as the Mercedes Boxes fitted between 1960 and , say, 1989.
Actually the old J-Boxes fitted to 220s and 6.3s were almost identical in many respects. The main changes were restricted to the number of frictions and the thickness of the solids. A 220 would have three frictions, whereas the later more powerful models would have five frictions. 6.3s did have two special looped bands for strength and longevity. All very interesting. Boxes fitted to the Chassis 116s were very similar. I am talking about the various 722. boxes. In closing, I should also point out that despite all my successful (most of the time) endeavors, I never mastered the art of even dismantling the Borg Warner DG boxes as fitted to many of the British luxury cars such as Rovers, Humbers, Jaguars etc. Just too complex. Regards Styria
I obtained my knowledge to repair and servicing of Automatics by trial and error - the last named always would hurt when a box wouldn't work properly after installation. It was always back to the drawing board. In the end, I was quite adept and capable of dealing with the Borg Warner 35 and 65s, as well as the Mercedes Boxes fitted between 1960 and , say, 1989.
Actually the old J-Boxes fitted to 220s and 6.3s were almost identical in many respects. The main changes were restricted to the number of frictions and the thickness of the solids. A 220 would have three frictions, whereas the later more powerful models would have five frictions. 6.3s did have two special looped bands for strength and longevity. All very interesting. Boxes fitted to the Chassis 116s were very similar. I am talking about the various 722. boxes. In closing, I should also point out that despite all my successful (most of the time) endeavors, I never mastered the art of even dismantling the Borg Warner DG boxes as fitted to many of the British luxury cars such as Rovers, Humbers, Jaguars etc. Just too complex. Regards Styria
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