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Great question Sean.
Here and the USA are pretty much the same as we have a country roughly the same size, with very little rail infrastructure for goods, so the heavy lifting is done by trucks. Especially when it comes to frozen or refrigerated goods.
Train carriages/wagons are mainly for dry goods, not cold.
So the market is pretty much the same. Trucks are needed to deliver anything and everything right around the country.
It’s the needs that differ from our country to theirs.
Europe is entirely different, as they have a great rail network for goods, plus very short distances.
However they have a very unique goods transport via ships to all the various other countries where loaded trailers are deposited on the ships, and the trucks leave, and a different truck collects them at the next port. Something we don’t do.
Where Australia differs, is that unlike North America, we have a vast expanse of nothing due to no water for 90% of the country, but people still live there, poor roads (if any) and certainly no rail.
The expanses of the US with no water is quite small, and you have major states and cities from north to south, east to west due to their vast expanse of rivers and waterways etc plus great roads that go between.
You don’t see any “outback truckers” in the USA like we have here.

So the trucks differ in what they need to do, plus the laws are extremely different.
The below pics show the Tesla Semi, and a typical Volvo for Australia.
The USA have very little rules when it comes to length regarding trailer to truck dimensions as the red markers indicate.
However they do have some overall length restrictions, which then impacts on trailer length thus payload.
Plus they (as we have discussed) don’t do much super heavy maximised multi trailer loads as we do.
We also have very strict axle load weights where the USA not so much.
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We maximise payloads and run maximum weights, where the USA don’t really do this.
Our trucks will keep the same trailer and maybe drive from Brisbane to Melbourne doing one high weight load, where in the USA, they may pick up and drop off trailers three or four times doing pick ups and drops along the same distance.
Their typical 18 wheelers (as we know them) are fairly light weight probably high 20’s to mid 30 tonnes.
Our typical 22 wheelers are from high 30’s to mid 50 tonnes.
Typical trucks in the USA 18 wheeler. Long nose huge sleeper bunk short trailer.
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Typical Australian 22 wheeler.
Note how much trailer is in front of the tow coupling or past the second axle from the rear.
Short nose, smaller sleeper, longer trailer more axles = more weight.
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I guess, we want to carry more further in one trip, with our very strict rules regarding weight, length etc where the Americans don’t usually do this.
Regarding range.
Both the Tesla & Volvo heavy duty can do roughly 500km per charge.
Down side is massive batteries doing this massive job, takes an extremely long time to charge.
Usually in excess of 8 hours.
Good IF there are suitable chargers at the truck stops.
Our drivers have to do 12 hours on, 12 off, so this is great for charging if the infrastructure is there dotted around the country, which of course at present, it’s not.
 

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Now, regarding Americans trucks, it’s really a way of life.
Some with their partners, travel around the USA in their trucks and don’t have a home or a house, it’s their truck they live in.
Sort of like a heavy haul mobile home.
These are some great examples.
I had many a tour through some of these trucks while in one of the biggest truck stop parking yard in the world in Memphis.
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Some even have air conditioning for drivers having extended stops.
One man and his wife had been at the Memphis truck stop for 2 weeks, as they were having a bit of a break.
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The biggest truck stop in the world is in Iowa
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We did d a couple of crossings overnight on a passenger & truck ferry from Naples to Catania Sicily.
These are all trailers, which will be towed off the ship by a “yard truck” and prime movers will collect to finish the job in Sicily.
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Fascinating Patrick!
Very enjoyable read, thank you!
 

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Thanks for the kind words Michel, however I went off topic, but I tend to get carried away, and drift off into other parts of trucks 🤣
It’s a massive topic, that I’m glad others find interesting.

I find the two pics of the trucks above quite interesting with the red line measurements I put in, as the prime mover set ups, are totally opposite, but still work 😱
 

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Hello Sean,
The short answer is no.
Follow and read all the details in this link for the answers:
We are in the truck section so we might get moved.
Regards,
Brian
 

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Yes mate,
Tesla often outsells Camry as well.
BEV’s and hybrids are selling big time.
No stamp duty, plus $3k back from the government.
Plus some places now offer “Green Car Loans” so instead of paying up to 8%, they are offered at between 2-3%.
Why?
Because the banks and lenders get carbon credits etc, and this is there way of helping to reduce greenhouse emissions.
 

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Hello Sean,
The short answer is no.
Follow and read all the details in this link for the answers:
We are in the truck section so we might get moved.
Regards,
Brian
Ahhhhhhhhhhh it’s all good Brian.
Trucks, electric vehicles, V Facts we all learn no matter where it is 🤣
 

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As BEV’s owners don’t buy petrol, they don’t pay any of the taxes pushed onto petrol sales.

The NSW Government has announced that all BEV’s will pay 2.61c/k and hybrids of any type will pay 2.088c/k.
This will take effect in 2027, or when BEV sales reach 30% of the total market, whichever comes first.
As Brian’s V Facts show BEV currently at 3.1%, there is still a way to go, but with sales going crazy, I feel that the 30% market share will come in way before 2027.

Government still wants their taxes no matter what 🙄
 
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And Patrick are the 60 Electric Trucks planed to be on the Road by May yours ? Also much more non perishable freight to be moved by Rail . Will they be Trailers only , fully loaded, be sent and met by Prime movers at the destination ?? Or will containers be used.
Either way it involve double loading plus additional cost.
Will the $$$s add up ? $$$s first .. emissions second...
 

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Yes Sean,
It’s the biggest single order of battery electric trucks in the world so far.
50 of ours, and 10 small trucks (we don’t do these smaller range) from our opposition.
We don’t do the trailer thing here in Oz, that’s typically in Europe.
We ship containers by rail here, but very few.
These 50 trucks that have been ordered are rigid taught liners or curtain sliders like this.
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Gents,
I wanted to post this pic of a new charging solution in Sweden for Volvo full electric buses.
This can be installed strategically around the bus rout for maximising the “charging opportunities”
Super high kW charging up to 350kW. A few minutes will give the bus an extra 30 minutes drive time.
Should never need to be taken off the road for full charging, or overnight charging.
The charging array can be deployed while picking up, or dropping off passengers.
Sort of old and new tech with the roof module looking like a tram connector.
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Amazing, yet so simple!
 
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